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Ben Greengrass and D'Angelo Heyward
Creative Director at ThoughtMatter / Design and Illustrator
In this bonus episode, we’re joined by Ben Greengrass and D'Angelo Heyward, who met through the D&AD mentorship program. Ben is the Creative Director of the design agency ThoughtMatter, while D’Angelo is a designer and illustrator who was accepted into the D&AD Shift program last spring. The program includes an intensive night school led by industry experts and mentorship for self-made creatives without a college degree. Join us to hear how Ben and D'Angelo connected, worked together, and hint, hint, will continue to work together in the future!